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Fake News: Donald Trump Did NOT Say All Immigrants Are Animals

  • by: Maarten Schenk
  • (Thu, 17 May 2018 08:25:43 Z)

STORY UPDATED: check for updates below.

Did President Donald Trump refer to all (legal or illegal) immigrants as animals? A CSPAN clip that has been widely retweeted misses some important context. Trump was being asked about an MS-13 gang member when he made the comments during a roundtable about sanctuary cities in California.

Here is the original CSPAN tweet (archived here):

Note that the tweet caption doesn't mention immigrants.

Screenshot of https://twitter.com/cspan/status/996845374819192833

Trump's words in the clip are:

We have people coming into the country, or trying to come in. We're stopping a lot of them. But we're taking people out of the country, you wouldn't believe how bad these people are. These aren't people. These are animals. And we're taking them out of the country at a level and at a rate that's never happened before. And because of the weak laws, the come in fast, we get them, we release them, we get them again, we bring them out: it's crazy.

The dumbest laws, as I said before, the dumbest laws on immigration in the world. So we're gonna take care of it Margaret, we'll get it done.

That sounds pretty bad in isolation. But the clip omits the context: Trump is talking with Fresno County Sheriff Margaret Mims who is complaining that ICE has fewer powers compared to other law enforcement agencies and that this makes it really difficult for them to talk to gang members etc. in jail. Just before Trump makes his remarks, she can be heard saying:

There could be an MS-13 gang member I know about. If they don't reach a certain threshold, I cannot tell ICE about them.

The MS-13 gang is described on Wikipedia as:

MS-13 (Mara Salvatrucha; also known as simply MS or Mara) is an international criminal gang that originated in Los Angeles, California, US in the 1980s. The gang later spread to many parts of the continental United States, Canada, Mexico, and Central America, and is active in urban and suburban areas. Most members are of Central American origin, principally El Salvador.

In the U.S., MS-13 has an especially heavy presence in California, the Washington, D.C. metropolitan area, New York City and New Jersey, Boston, Charlotte, North Carolina, and Houston. There is also a presence of MS-13 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

Members of MS are characterised by tattoos covering the body, previously including the face, and by the use of their own sign language. They are notorious for their violence and a subcultural moral code based on merciless retribution. This cruelty of the distinguished members of the "Maras" or "Mareros" earned them a path to be recruited by the Sinaloa Cartel battling against Los Zetas in an ongoing drug war in Mexico.

On their website CSPAN also indicated the comments were being made about gang members:

President Trump Calls Gang Members 'Animals'

During a roundtable with local California officials regarding 'sanctuary cities' policies, President Trump says his administration is busy rounding up MS-13 gang members and deporting them. 'These...

However, many people on Twitter interpreted the video clip without the full context and assumed the president was talking about undocumented immigrants or immigrants in general:

Updates:

: Even the Twitter account of the Associated Press missed the context and later rectified the situation by deleting a tweet:

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About the author:

Maarten Schenk is our resident expert on fake news and hoax websites. He likes to go beyond just debunking trending fake news stories and is endlessly fascinated by the dazzling variety of psychological and technical tricks used by the people and networks who intentionally spread made-up things on the internet.  He can often be found at conferences and events about fake news, disinformation and fact checking when he is not in his office in Belgium monitoring and tracking the latest fake article to go viral.

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